With the series in a bit of a rut as of late, (Lets face it. The games are good, but nowhere near where they should be.) and with Sonic becoming a laughingstock to most people (Not me, of course.), Sega seems to be at a bit of a crossroads.

With only spinoff games being announced as of late, such as Riders 2 and Rush Adventure, and so far not even a peep about a second nextgen Sonic title, at least in the main storyline. You have to believe that Sega is really trying to figure out what to do to make the mainline games as fun as the older releases.

Anyways, my query is simple: What do you think Sega should do with our favorite blue dude with(out) a 'tude?

I would say: make a new Sonic game that isn't just Sonic Adventure 1 + bugs + fancy graphics, and make more Sonic Rush games (as those games have been awesome).

I say focus on just simple stuff like Sonic 3. Plain, easy to learn, simple, ok graphics for it's time.

I think that sega should get started on something compleately new and origional (better said then do though :heh: )
Prohaps going back to the classic 2D formula would work somehow. You know, but instead of using the old 2D sprites, they could make really detailed ones like from the new HD version of Super Street Fighter 2 (or is it Street Fighter 2 turbo? can't remember XD )
Anyways, a slight influence of anime style would be added to the game to make it seem really cool and bright.

The only reason I think that they should try something in 2D again rather than 3D is because people don't seem to like sonic's move to 3D.

I'm not saying that the 3D games are bad (I personally like 'em more than the 2D ones), it's just that prohaps sega could do a better job in 2D (atleast, until they finally perfect 3D).

Plus, I've always wanted to play a HD version of the classic sonic games. That would rock XD

Well, for one thing, they could stop bringing in all these new characters. I mean, they were cool, but there are just so many(as many people already said) that already have potential as it is.

Yeah. The Sonicverse is a little overpopulated, in my eyes.

Who should they drop? Well...

Cream (Immensely useless.)
Rouge (Whats the motivation here? None. Drop her.)
Blaze (Cool, yes, but just doesn't fit, in my eyes.)
Omega (Again, whats the motivation? Whats the reasoning?)
Big (Self explanatory.)
Nega (ANOTHER EGGY? Please. The original gets screwed over enough as it is.)
Chaotix (They're just boring. Comic relief characters aren't needed, in my eyes.)

And with that list, I just became the most hated man on the site.

Avenger29, I agree with most of those choices to drop but dropping rouge? o.O
No way! She's one of the better characters in the series in my opinion. It's always funny watching her when she's around knnuckle-head :LOL:
Makes me laf :p I also like having cream in the series for some reason (although she can be heavily annoying XD )
Anyways, apart from that, I'd agree with you.

"Laf"? What the junk is that?

Anyways, Rouge is utterly useless. She can fly. Big whoop. So can Knuckles, who in my opinion has become unbelievably lame these days. She can dig. Again, so can Knux. She has boobs. So what? Do we really need more whorish characters in games these days?

So yeah. Just drop her. Shes not interesting. Shes not fun. Shes not worth the time to even draw concept art for.

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♪♪ My potential drop list would bring more hate upon meee than that list would you... ♪♪

:LOL:

Though I don't want Blaze to dissapear because she's so fun to play as in the two Sonic Rush games.

Also, laf = laugh phonetically.

Well, lets see who you'd drop then!

If you think it'll bring insane hate upon you, then I'm guessing your list involves a certain time-space warper...

I could agree with all of those except Rouge.

She could use a redesign so that, when playable, she's not just a Knuckles-clone, but her relationship with Knuckles is interesting and her ties to GUN and Eggman can be used for storyline related purposes.

I think, if they get a bit creative, Rouge can be used for several storylines in future games and therefore she is not useless.

However; I do admit that the way Sega has been doing things, even people like Knuckles and Tails are pretty much becoming useless because Sega doesn't use them creatively anymore, and hardly at all. :/

I think the best way to revive the series is to go back to the basics. Stop introducing new characters every game and return to the ones people know and love. That will help the series immensely.

Well, I say keep rouge so :p to you XD
And knuckles isn't that lame these days... just a bit. But I've always thought that rouge was a good character.
Well, we all have our own opinions :heh:
Although don't really have an opinion on Blaze because I ain't played any of the games with her in :/
EDIT: I compleately agree with you Gloden Sama. Sega haven't been using there characters properly to say the least XD

i picked other.

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...which means absolutely nothing unless you actually say what that "other" is...

yeah, i kinda of figured that.

i say he should star in games that are more than just the wii, like ps3,ps3,psp,others.

:mellow:

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I give up.

I'd say, "stay quiet and work on a mind blower," but um, apparently the rest of the world didn't think too highly of Sonic 360, so... keep it going with the spinoffs until new, more inspired employees find their way in. Yeah?

Cream? Useless. Big? Pshaw. Blaze and Rouge are both Knuckles clones in their own ways, but they have at least backstories and such. Omega sucks, but Gamma is my homeboy. He is easily one of the most developed characters out there.

But! About half the appeal of Sonic's line is how snazzy their characters look... and until they bump up the gameplay... ^^;
Of course, Rush rocks... but the 3D ones could work on their popularity...

I had to reread that a few times before I realized you were talking about Sonic Rush for the DS and not yourself. XD

Oh, yeah. The DS game too! XD

Actually, I was thinking more like Megaman's Rush...

o_o He has, though...

Anywho, I'm against "getting rid" of characters. In fact, if anything, I want Sega to BRING BACK more characters. It's cool that the Chaotix and Metal Sonic made a comeback as of Sonic Heroes, but there's still a lot more where they came from. Like Fang, for example...

i know...
he should keep it up!

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It takes alot to set me off, but I must say right now, you are the epitome of everything I can't stand about the internet. Nonsensical posting. Horrid grammar. Its just... GAH!

I don't mean to be mean, but please, clean it up man.

ok ok cool down! sorry if someone set you off... are you cooled down yet?

good.

its just my opinion, i know lot dont agree with others, thats why they say keep opinions to your self, so sorry.

:hs: please forgive :hs:

Um, Knuxallen? This topic is about your opinions on where we go From where we are now. We post our opinions. t's ok if you misunderstood.

I still think they should focus on extreme speed, and not so much on the graphics. You don't want Eggman looking TOO real, ya know?

...WHAT!

ok, ok, ok, when was i talking about eggman...

and i did NOT misunderstand!

*cools down, temper lowers*

i was just appologizing for if i offended somebody.

to mr :Tails: :Sonic:

I personally think they need to revert back to just platforming. No treasure hunting or fishing or anything like that. After all, I think characters like Knuckles and Tails were way cooler when they levels were strictly high-speed platformers.

I think that Sega should stop coming up with more characters, they have too many. And they are all starting to look like fancharacters. They also should extend their due dates so that they have time to finish the games instead of selling games that are only 80% done *cough*NextGen*cough*

That's some good truth right there! Especially the "no treasure hunting" part.

I say keep each and every character that’s been in the games. Including Big, and Omochao.

I’m serious about Big…<.<…Maybe Omochao too.

I think TS and I are the only people in the world who like Big. Big is the Power Formation for Team Unlikely!

Only Sonic character I dislike is Chris. But he’s in Sonic X, not the games.

I like the Chaotix, I like Mighty, Metal Sonic pwns, I love seeing new characters, and more.

2D is awesome. 3D is equally awesome. Combination is awesome as well.

What I’d like to see is two things.

One, I’d like to see a game that has all the characters in a storyline thing, but, keep only a few of them playable for Storyline purposes, and others maybe useable for extra stuff. The way technology is going nowadays, I’m sure this is possible.

Secondly, I’d love to see a Sonic the Fighters 2, with better graphics and the other characters added in as well, along with special attacks.

Maybe I’m weird that way, but I say drop none, and heck, if you have a good enough character idea, I say add ‘em as well!

Perhaps I’m weird that way.

I third Arky's point. I don't play Sonic games to search for treasures or pilot a mech. I play Sonic for the intense speed. Unless I absolutely have to, I never use characters other than the three hedgehogs. The only reason I accept Silver, even though he isn't fast, is because he can blow crap up with his mind, and we all know how much I like a good telekinetic character...



As for what Sporky said... This is one of the very first times I fail to agree with him completely. I still believe the Sonicverse is way too overpopulated, and they need to get rid of alot of the unpopular characters. Keep the three hedgehogs, of course, the original supporters (Tails, Knuckles, and Amy), Eggman, with a reversion to Robotnik, and possibly, bring back Blaze. Thats all, though. The others just annoy me and serve little to no purpose other than to fill some background or party game space.

However, I do agree with Sporky about having a Sonic Fighters 2. Of course, basing it on the Virtua Fighter engine would really screw me over, since I can't stand VF, but just having a good Sonic fighting game would make me happy.

And yes. Put the annoying characters in that game, so I can take out my frustrations on Big and Cream...

Weirdly enough, the one time there actually was a Sonic party game, those characters weren't in it! Of course... those characters didn't exist yet, so that's why. XD



At any rate, I don't think the Sonicverse is overpopulated, but, and people will hate me for this, I do think there's too many hedgehogs... ^_^; Amy's fine, as Sonic does need a female counterpart. I could accept Shadow, as he was meant to be the Anti-Sonic, I guess. And while Silver has cool powers, I feel there's starting to be too many hedgehogs. If another game introduces yet another hedgehog, I think I'll pull my hair out. One thing I like about most Sonic characters is that they're all different animals.

Anywho, I really can't say I'm for getting rid of anybody. Perhaps maybe not make anymore new characters, but definitely not get rid of anybody. Most importantly, only make important characters playable. Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles are the only characters that really have any business being playable, if you ask me. Even then, they should all play the same stages... fast, loop-de-loop stages for all of them, not just Sonic.

Also, as many characters as there are, the "pre-Adventure" ones should stop being neglected so much. Chaotix and Metal Sonic aren't enough, they need to, little by little, bring EVERYONE back... especially Fang...

Oh jeez... Shuffle... Don't even remind me of that...

Hmm... I just noticed, I haven't made a choice on what to do...

Well... Lets see. In my eyes, they have two options. One is to put the series on hiatus. Wanna know why games like Tekken, Resi Evil, and Kingdom Hearts are so good? Its because the developers actually TAKE THEIR FRICKING TIME. The only games that have annual releases that are any good are usually just sports games. If there were a KH game released every six months, do you think they'd still be as good as they are today? Heck nah! I know having to wait for a game for almost two years is insanely annoying, but its worth it. Think about the gap between SA1 and SA2. Almost three years. And what happened? SA2 drastically improved upon an already awesome game. Then they started releasing games closer and closer together. The time period between Shadow and Nextgen? A little less than a year. The results of those games? Decent. But definitely not worth the hype I gave them. Fives across the board on a scale of one to ten. I blame the rush jobs on both games, as well as Sonic Team having too much on their plate, with Secret Rings and Riders also being worked on at the same time.

So yeah. Sega could afford to just sit back, and take their time with a game that'll blow everybody's mind and save the series from the constant ridicule it gets.

The other option, and the one that I don't want to see until its absolutely necessary, is to retire Sonic. The hog has been around for almost 17 years. Thats a dang good run in any entertainment business. Over that time, however, he's went from prince to pauper. No longer is Sonic generally loved by the gaming community. Aside from a small group that actually still likes him, these days he's the laughingstock of the gaming world, it seems. This is definitely due to Sega ruining his attitude, taking away his arrogance, and alot of poor choices in the games, such as the dialog in Shadow, and merging with Sammy, resulting in the apparent bugginess in Nextgen. For those that are wondering why its Sammy's fault, its because they fired the entire bugtesting team for Nextgen.

So yeah... If worse comes to worse... You have to end it, and put the Hedgehog to sleep.

And now my fingers hurt. My punishment for my opinion right now? Maybe, but this had to be said.

Well, even if they were to spread the games further apart in when they get released, I dunno how much of a difference that can really make. I mean, things have never really been the same since Yuji Naka left Sega...

Well, thats only been for two games, though. One of which was actually well received, for the most part.

I honestly believe the departure of Naka to be a good thing, sort of. Where I'm a Playstation gamer, and he hated the PS2, for killing the Dreamcast, the PS2 games were always a bit lower quality than the GC or Xbox versions of the games. With him out of the way, the PS2 and PS3 games will finally be on par with the 360's Sonic titles.

But yeah, alot of the big names from the original Sonic Team are gone, aren't they? I mean, Naka's gone. Naoto's gone. So many of the core members are gone, and thats definitely taken away some of the original magic as well.

Yes, Naka hated the PlayStation company but that's not why the PS2 were lower quality, it's because the PS2 was less advanced compared to the GameCube and XBox and had less frames, that's why the PS2 games have worse frame rate, and that's about it.

Personally Sega should go on hiatus and make a game that brings Sonic back to the top where he belongs. And stop making annoying characters that aren't necessary. And stick to speed. No guns, no mechs, no treasure hunting and no swearing every ten second *cough*ShadowtheHedgehog*cough*.

And no dissing Sonic Shuffle, that was the first game that got me into the series! I loved that game, but most of the Spin-Off games are you either love them or you hate them, that's what I hate about the fact that only Spin-Offs were good these days.

Or, we could just let Nintendo do all the coding. <.<; They certainly seem to know what they're doing... and now they've got at least some rights to Sonic...

I'm a bit of an old-school Nintendo vs. SEGA type myself, since my SNES broke and my Genesis didn't (a traumatic childhood experience) but if SEGA can't make the grade, and Nintendo can, I'd rather have a good Sonic game than I'd care who made it.

So: Purely Sonic game made by Nintendo: a possibility? A good thing? Or no?

Maybe I'm biased since my first system was a SNES and I'm a documented Nintendo fanboy, but I think this would be good.

Why? Well... while I haven't played any of them, I've heard super positive reviews of Sonic & the Secret Rings, as well as both Sonic Rush games... all of which are Nintendo exclusive.

If memory serves right, a spoon once told me that Yuji Naka and Shigeru Miyamoto are the best of friends... as we know, Mr. Naka the Great has departed from Sega... whereas Mr. Miyamoto, while not technically in-charge, is pretty much Nintendo's life-blood... so perhaps he has insisted on the return of the awesome Sonic out of respect for his friend.


In case you've seen this topic but not the other one, Sonic IS in Brawl, and if you go to Super Smash Dojo and watch the video... well, be advised, Sonic fans will scream in delight with the way he is portrayed...

Hmm... Sonic's big revival seems to be due, in large part, to Nintendo... Don'tcha just love how ironic that is? XD

It seems they respect the character alot more than Sega does, thats for sure.

After last night, Nintendo earned massive respect points from me. Their own official trailer shows Sonic beating the tar out of THEIR flagship character. Thats a huge deal in its own right. They also managed to give Sonic the attitude he's been lacking for the longest time. The only reason I'm against this is because I'm so used to the PS consoles, It'd be hard having to adjust to the Wii and Cube. Of course, thats just a personal reason, but still...

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

I could agree, that fishing stuff & tresure hunting is a waste of game meterials.

and them adding it makes us wait longer to get game. >=p