Fancharacters... I actually have fancharacters myself. So I'm not really against fancharacters, but I do agree with what you said about them in the Sonic RPG thread, Avenger. That most of them are just recolors (brown Sonic, green striped Shadow, purple Knuckles, orange Amy, etc). Whenever I see uncreative fancharacters like that, I actually do cringe a little. Which is why I'm self-conscious and totally paranoid about whether my own creations are original or not.

Yours is actually one of those rare, original ones I was talking about. Pexas, is it?

Close. It's Pexxus, actually. And hearing that puts me a bit more at ease. :heh: One thing I do try to do with my characters is avoid using hedgehogs or foxes and try using animals that are rarely or never seen in Sonic games. Also, most people here are witness to the fact that I came up with Rage the Falcon BEFORE Sonic Riders came out. ^_^;

Thanks again, though, for putting my mind at ease about that. And, ya, I actually do agree with you about how most fancharacters are just recolors. I look at them and think, "Oh, Sonic fell into a pool of red paint?" I mean, they're not even new characters, appearance-wise.

I think this is part of the reason I initially didn't like the idea of Silver. While Silver is kind of a cool character, it still bugs me that he's another hedgehog. With Shadow, I kinda felt it appropriate since he was meant to be the "Anti-Sonic", but Silver kinda seemed like overkill... I dunno, though, these are just my opinions.

Gah! How'd I misspell that? Its in your title thingy for crying out loud! >_<

I think they should've kept Silver as a Mink, personally. But I guess having three hedgehogs, not counting Amy, made more sense to the corporate brass at Sega.

I see Yuji Naka's influence all over Silver though, just because of the following.


And yeah, about the "Red Sonic" things, I've called people out on this, and these are the two most common responses, paraphrased.

"lol itz nawt pant itz da blud uv hiz victimz"

Sonic as a murderer... Lovely.

And then theres... "lol hem n nuklez has a sun"

WTF.

Heh heh. That picture would have been better if all three hedgehogs were in their super forms. XD (or maybe non SS versions of Goku, Vegeta, and Trunks)

As for recolored Sonic characters passing off for original creations... ya, I continue to agree with you on that.

Hmmm... maybe we should turn this into a new topic, as I'm certain there's a LOT that can be discussed about fancharacters. In fact, I'll do that right now!

Yeah, thats true, but I'm assuming Sega didn't want to show off the Super forms at the time that photo was released. (Although we'd seen two of the three already...)

Heh, ya.

Anywho, there's one really, REALLY popular fancharacter that I don't like. And while I don't her design is too unoriginal (at least, what I mean by that is that it's not JUST a recolor), her design isn't really too much of the reason I dislike her. I don't know if I want to mention who it is, in case there's any fans of that character here, but ya... she's a REALLY popular fancharacter that I don't like very much.

Waitwaitwait. A popular fancharacter? This I gotta see...

Okay, I'm risking getting people that like this character to come and flame the heck out of me, but I have to speak my mind.

I am referring to THIS character:


Becky the Hedgehog

She's so popular, that there's even other fancharacters out there that are cheap recolors of her!

Anywho, it's out there. And ya, I have many reasons for disliking this fancharacter. Granted, she's definitely more original in design than most fancharacters, but as I stated, that's not really the reason I dislike her.

Yikes! Its like Rouge and Sonic had a kid!

Great artwork, though. I must say, you could trick the casual fan into thinking its official Sega work.

I'm a little surprised you haven't heard of her, she seems to be everywhere. And yes, she has a LOT of fans everywhere all over the net. In fact, she's created somewhat of a subculture all her own.

Oh, and yes, the art is top-notch. The artist (who calls herself Purity) is indeed a very talented artist. However, the reason I dislike her character is because she seems to... aww, screw it, I'll just go outright and say it. There's more "inappropriate" art of the character out there than legitimate art... which in and of itself might not seem like a good reason to dislike the character until you find out that 90% of that "inappropriate" art is by the creator of the character herself!

So, ya, I dislike the character because, to me, she feels like she was created solely for the purpose of hentai art. I hate that a fancharacter can become so popular despite (or who knows, maybe BECAUSE OF) the fact that her reason for existence seems to merely be for lewd purposes.

I've followed the character for a long time on and off. Her origin was, interestingly enough, as a recolor of Amy Rose named after the artist (Purity was formerly known as Becky... which could be her real name). Through time her image (as well as Purity's artistic talent) has evolved to what you see today. She's been around for a VERY long time.

I was expecting you'd say something about her overly accentuated... Um... Features...

Yeah, the boobs are a dead giveaway that she was definitely created for, and mostly popular for, freaky hedgehog porn.

Meh. I don't mind a character with "highly accentuated features" (see Rouge), because there are a lot of people in real life that have those. I mean, if someone created nothing BUT characters with big boobs, then it'd get annoying, but if there's one thing I believe in, it's variety. Meaning that I like a universe to be like real life... in that characters all have different attributes. Big boobs, small boobs, long hair, short hair, tall, short, skinny, fat, muscular, whatever.

But I digress... I probably wouldn't have a beef with the character of Becky if it weren't for that. I mean, it's bad enough to have "feaky hedgehog porn" of real characters... but there's something unsettling about creating a character for the sole purpose of "freaky hedgehog porn".

Incidentally, I like saying "freaky hedgehog porn"... it amuses me so.

Ahhh, fan characters.

I've seen good, I've seen bad, and I've even seen an all out Mary Sue. (Of course, that author was making fun of them.)

Excluding my kid OCs :heh: , I have a couple.

Well, three...One of them is a hedgehog, and he had been intended as a throwaway character. *Cough*Issai*Cough*

Anyways, I tend to pretty linient on fan characters. The only reasons I'll dislike one is if they are a Gary Stu/Mary Sue, or if their's a romance involved with a Canon, and the Canon returns it...

There are, of course, exceptions to everything.

And I had not heard of this character named Becky either.

Of course, here and FF.Net are pretty much my only Sonic stops...Oh, and DA too, I suppose.

It's sad, really. The internet can be a really screwed-up place at times. :X

Heh. Pexxus. He's actually a character I like, just because he does not follow stereotypes. He is a groundhog, but strong. He has a team, but they're unlike anything else out there. Even if he's not exactly famous, he;s still a character I like to see, and is a very good creation from a non-standard mind.

And he's not into the freaky hedgehog *bleep*. That is always a plus.

I made some of my own characters and still use them. Though I don't remember whether Nite came into play before or after Silver was released...

Even worse when its the freakier ShadowxSonic stuff... Gah... Talk about a childhood being raped, along with a hedgehog...

But yeah, aside from the rare few, most fan-characters do nothing but make the Sonic fanbase look like total idiots.

Gah, I totally hate those types of characters! Especially when they start making it so that the canon character starts hating the character that, in canon, he/she most likely WOULD have a romantic attachment to.

Thanks, HA. Now that I think about it, I think I do remember you commenting on some of my characters before. I won't lie, I love hearing praise. :heh:

Incidentally, I'd like to also state that Nite is one of the very few fancharacters that I like, as well. ;) I say, the more fancharacters break the mold (or rather, don't come from one), the better!

Trust me, that'll never happen. And if somehow I end up finding someone else making that kind of art with any of the Pexxus characters, I'll friggen' murder them!

Ya... I can't stand that kinda stuff, either. Though, actually, I can't stand ANY form of OOC-ness...

If its a joke, like Shadow cooking with a giddy smile on his face, I'll let it slide. But if its like a serious moment, and he's not only being nice to, but even kissing his bitter rival... GAH! SICKENING!

The only reason I'll tolerate OOCness is for two reasons.

One: It's for humor purposes.

Edit, and I can't believe I forgot to put my second reason. O.o

Two: There's an exception, such as, a character gets amnesia. I haven't actually seen anything like this in the non humor though.

Otherwise, I do try my best to keep characters IC...

Off topic!

Pexxus, from what I know of him, is pretty cool, but I haven't gotten much of a chance to see him in action.

Nite, is awesome, no if ands or buts about it, and I have seen him do his thing.

Great! Now I'm inspired but I have bed soon! >.<

I like being original with characters. I came up with Nite the telepath. Then I integrated Desty Nova. Then came the process of developing X13 and Solar the Lion, and so here I am. Personally, it is here on the SRB that most of the actually interesting characters develop. Pexxus is a prime example, though I like to think that Nite and his guys/girls are there somewhat as well.

Though it seems like I wasn't the first one with the psychic idea, what with Silver and all. Kinda a let-down if you ask me.

I like playing originals that actually have a VALID personality. Team Stellar are mercenaries who work for money and take odd jobs much like the Chaotix, only take the dangerous ones with lots of guns, blood and danger. Pexxus is more of the Sonic type, carefree and life-loving with a serious side. More of a hero.

... Now that I think about it, SRB really ROCKS in the OC department!

I do like my OC Martin the Meerkat, because he's a hero, but like old school, with a secret idenity, while all the others are heroes and everyone knows who they are.

Plus, he's not fast, or smart, or anything. Just impervious. <.<

Yah. plus, meerkats are awesome.

And I have to agree with HA. There are so many cool OCs here!

Hear hear! I'm proud to say that, even though we're not a big place like Sonic Stadium or something, we do rocketh out loud!

Btw... about recolors... check this out!

That person summed up most fancharacters pretty nicely.

Which is my second favorite thing about this site. We're a small group, which makes it easier to be friends with everybody.

Not like it actually needed to be easier. Its easy enough as it is.

Anyways, yeah. The fancharacters here are actually really good, which is way more than I can say about anywhere else on the internuts.

Well, I'm usually keen on the aspect of fan characters, as long as they don't ruin the storyline. I haven't really seen much of Pexxus, so I can't comment on that.

As for Team Nova...well, I'll say that I found the part on Nova's bio in which it was told his unstable brain drove him to run across a battlefield with a pair of boxers on his head, all the while yelling "The sky is falling!"...well, that was a rather nice, funny touch, Avatar.

And Irony...you're using a mere throwaway character in my RP?!?!?! Aw, man! C'mon! (Yes, I'm joking, of course.) :LOL:

As for my character (yes, Didymus), I know I haven't posted all too much info on him, but if anyone has any impressions/opinions/concerns about him they'd like to share, well, go ahead, I guess.

I wouldn't mind hearing about your fancharacter, though I must admit, since I've been away from the RPs for a long time, I can't say I know anything about him (I'm assuming he's in Soleannan Crisis?)

Man... I really have to actually finish the introductory Pexxus story. Except I'm too lazy to make a comic and I'm not sure how many people would be interested in just a pure word fanfic.

Yes, he's in The Soleannan Crisis (TSC). I've got his bio in the first post of the TSC's sign-ups thread, and you can see his behavior, of course, in various posts of mine in the RP itself.

Ahh... fancharacters. XD

I've tried to create some, but they never interest me for very long. Those of you who have been here since the beginning probably remember Fin or Vlad... but they never interested me for long, so they've been wiped clean. XD

I'd like to state I have nothing against fan characters. In my book, Nite, Pexxus and the group that goes along with them are some of the best OC's I've ever seen. Nite, Pexxus, Ginger, Elric, Lime, Starlite and all the rest... all of them are creative, unique and unusual. They all have thrilling back stories, unique personalities and powers that make them generally feel like a real member of the Sonic Universe.

Plus, Crocobunnies are the coolest thing ever, hands down. :Lime:


Most fan characters, including nearly every one I've made, don't interest me because they fill a niche that a real character already fills. I'd have a hard time falling for a character who is strong but gullible because Knuckles is already perfection wrapped in awesomeness. But it's okay if fan characters are similar to real character when done creatively... like Spoony's Pexxus world, what with the future setting and the fact that, while similar to our original cast, there's enough that is original, different and unique to set them apart and make them just plain fantastic. FLANTASTIC.

A recolored Amy Rose who, instead of a hammer, has a shovel will just bore me. But someone like Lime who is a fricken allegator/rabbit who knows computers... that's just sheer greatness. And a psychic cathog who ALWAYS has a smart-ass comment on the tip of his tongue? Who wouldn't love that?

So, usually fan characters don't keep my interest for long... but when you have people like the de-roboticized version of Metal Sonic (BR needs to bring Unmetal back... srsly.) or one of the uniquely created characters from AGOI's universe, like Chatrol then it's a whole different story. =)

Just my two cents.

Heh, ya. XD Man, though, Lime sure has a complicated storyline. To start off as an adult rebel from the far, far future in an RP and then go to a child prodigy who's also Pexxus' sidekick.

o_o Hmmm... and ya, you just made me remember that I actually created Lime BEFORE Pexxus... XD

Just type "Becky the Hedgehog" (without the quotes) into the search field of DeviantArt and you'll see she's pretty popular. And that's just the clean stuff...

What I meant was he started as a throwaway character, so I actually intentionally made him a bit Gary Stuish in Chaotic Power.

But people liked him some, and he grew on me, so I kept him. :heh:

And Didymus is cool too! The only other OC G.U.N. soldier (That's not a Mobian) that I know of is mine, which I've never used here and only a bit in an older fic of mine that I stopped writing.

Maybe I'll sign up for him...

Wow...O.o...

Becky is popular!

Anyways, back to capillary action, then Econ!

Well, thanks Irony. As for Becky, well, I frankly hadn't heard of her (not really, at least) either.

I've never been into popular characters. I have always been interested in the remote ones, the ones who mystery flies around. This is why I don't usually play normal characters from a universe: They're too set in stone, to popular, and everybody explained them in one way or another SOMEWHERE. I like to be creative, and there isn't a lot of creativity that can be put into playing a pre-generated character who has already been perused in and out.

Which is why I make a lot of OCs. I take the things I come up with, the original ideas, and incorporate them into a new character. For instance, people know Nite around here. The ONLY character who is remotely close to the job that Nite pulls off is Fang the Sniper, and he is so remote that barely anyone remembers him. However, I took the mercenary idea and put it together with something I thought original at the time: A psychic. Specifically, a powerful, mind-reading telepath. Before Silver appeared on the scene, Nite was the only psychic I saw or heard of in the Sonic universe.

On the other hand, Nite is remote. Unlike Becky who is as you say popular, Nite is so remote that barely anyone knows about him. And those that DO are the friends I have here and those who drew/thought of him. That, in my eyes, makes him special.

And come on, who ever would think of making a cat/hedgehog hybrid, a groundhog main character or a crocodile/rabbit cross?


From what I have seen, several more characters caught my attention. The main ones, of course, are those developed by the guys and gals here on SRB for Team Stellar. Pexxus and his crew come a close second, though I could not remember the other names for the world. :X I liked the idea of Vlad the Bat, the somewhat vampiric Dracula-like bat living in a grand castle. That has never been thought of in the SRB universe as far as I remember. Lime also stands out: Come on, who doesn't like crocobunnies?

Becky may be popular... But Pexxus, Lime, and other OCs developed here trump that blue chick at any time, any day, hands down.

Very well put, HA. Also, there's another thing that our OCs here have that most OCs (including Becky, for the most part) don't. They have stories. That is to say, stuff actually happens to our OCs. Other OCs (unless they're created in fanfics) usually only appear in pictures and nothing more. I mean, what's the point in having an OC if they're not going to actually... ya know, DO anything?

Especially if they're sprite re-colours.

Though if artists just want to create a character to just draw them, I don't really find that all too bad (unless they're really unoriginal with the design, and pretty much make them look exactly like a canon character)

Ya, I was just saying our OCs have that added oomph! But you do have a good point there. Still, that's exactly what happens most of the time is that there's just recolored canon characters being passed off as "original" characters (for those of you with bad memory, that's what the O in OC stands for) and then not even having a point to them, to boot!

Should we start a new OC topic just to post the bios of our OCs and discuss them, and other OC-related things?

There already is one, somewhere (I think it's the fanart/fanfic area, or somewhere in that vicinity), for bios of OCs

Well, in that case, should we go and revive it?

If you've got characters to post bios of, go for it! If you don't, then it'd kinda be tough to post an OC bio in it. XD

As for discussion of fan-characters/OCs/whatever-you-call-em's the way we're doing here, that'd make sense to stay here, I think, as I think that's what the topic's about?

Oh, ya, the OC thread! Ya, you can go revive it if you want. It's not really meant for discussion of fancharacters in general like this thread, but it's a great place to post any bios/pictures of your own OCs.

The thread is located here.

I actually didn't create that thread... and I don't think I was even around when that thread was initially created (there was a period of time of which I was without internet for almost a year). But... I guess that's the place to post OC bios.

Well, I've revived that thread. Thanks.